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In Human Rights, Innocent Killings, Kashmir, People, Politics, Srinagar on 13 February, 2007 at 1:33 am

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India might claim to be the largest democracy of the world, an economic Abdul Rehman Padroo's Wife And Kid 9courtesy of Greater Kashmir) super power on its way to become the next super power of the world but for Kashmir and Kashmiris it is a state that rewards killing of innocent Kashmiris with money, more power and commendations. The fact that India does indeed reward its forces for killing innocents was reflected in an earlier post and now we have official endorsement that indeed innocent Kashmiris are being killed for rewards.

For long the people of Kashmir have been claiming oppression at the hands of Indian Forces. However this fact is fiction for the majority of Indians, who in their naivety sitting and living miles away from the reality of Kashmir believe or want to believe that the army is stationed in Kashmir for the protection of Mother India. For them, it is the 700,000 troops which will sanctify the land from terrorists (read Kashmiris). It is the Muslim Kashmiris who are evil, it is the Kashmiris who threw out and murdered the Hindus of Kashmir. It is the Muslims of Kashmir who are the reason for all the evils of India, everyone else and everything else is holy but Kashmiris. The Indians want us to wail and cry for the Hindus who were allegedly prosecuted a thousand years back by Muslim invaders and ignore the killings of our brethren in our courtyards.

Indian Army, the people of India would want you to believe, is one of the most disciplined armies of the world, they are re-incarnations of the Gods, thus can not commit wrong. If you were to prove that the army does commit atrocities, they would call it collateral damage! Collateral damage they say is unavoidable. They say. We suffer. How can our death be collateral? Indeed, it is easy to label innocent deaths as collateral damage or better still brand innocent people as Foreign Terrorists and there you have the world endorsing your view. The world might endorse it, but the Kashmiris will not. They know the truth, the reality of the Indian state. India and Pakistan might buy our so-called leaders, but they can never buy a Kashmiri.

The blindia media

02 repressionThe Indians are not interested in the realities of Kashmir. When told the reality of Kashmir, they call it anti-national. For long the Kashmiris have seen the Indian Media distort the truth of Kashmir for their own cause. For long we have seen the Indian Media create false stories of prosecution by militants and for long we have seen the atrocities of the Indian Army brushed under the carpet.

Does the blind Indian Media (blindia) feed lies to the Indians because that’s what the Indian media (aka Government) wants or is it because the Indians are unwilling to accept the truth? It could be both ways or it is possible that after years of tuning the minds to think in a particular way (that a Kashmiri is a militant till and until proven otherwise) the government has succeeded and the Indians can no longer accept anything other than what they have been tuned to think and that is what the media will keep on feeding them. The people in India want to hear good things about their country. They can not even fathom the idea that the Indian Army can do any bad. For them, the Indian Army is a re-incarnation of God and whatever it does is right. It is always the Kashmiris, the God-damned Muslims who are evil. Kashmiris deserve death. Whether or not we Kashmiris deserve death, we sure are getting it.

The burnt black bear

The burning of a wild bear by some people in Kashmir revealed the hypocrisy and obsession with anything that is ant-Kashmiri of the Indian media and people. A wild bear was burnt by some people in a village in Kashmir. The reaction of the media and the people of India was enormous. The India media and the people wanted answers; they wanted to know how such a ghastly act could be committed by people. It reinforced and justified their already pre-tuned minds that Kashmiris are anything but humans. The Indian Media played its part by covering the ‘atrocity’ extensively. The people asked, they shouted and they wanted the people who committed the gravest of gravest atrocities behind the bars. Syed Ali Shah Geelani sometimes speaks total sense and this was one of those times:

“A month ago when a wild animal was killed by the people at Pulwama, people in Delhi resented the killing of the wild animal and said that wild animals in Kashmir are not safe, but the on other hand the innocent Kashmiris are being killed on the orders of the same people who are worried about the safety and security of wild animals in Kashmir,” he said adding that the series of the custodial killings are “worst kind of state terrorism.”

The Killing of a bear shocked India, the killing of innocent Kashmiris lulled India to sleep.

We need a kill, operations have dried up

“I am a carpenter. Farooq (Constable Farooq) knows. Please don’t kill me,” Abdul Rehman Padroo shrieked in fear, his hands folded. “Don’t listen to him. He is a dreaded Pakistani terrorist,” shouted Deputy Superintendent of Police Bahadur Ram. Then Padroo was shot.

courtesy of indian express

And the kill was Ghulam Hassan Padroo , a carpenter murdered by the forces since the killing fields had dried up.

Quite accidentally, an investigation into a missing man, revealed the truth about the security forces in Kashmir. The truth of murdering Kashmiris and branding them as foreigners. The truth that killing a Kashmiri and branding him as a foreigner does reward . The truth that the thousands of Kashmiris who have disappeared might have been killed by the army.

The accidental investigation and the brutality consequent revelation that innocents were being murdered by the government in Kashmir opened the Pandora’s Box, many more bodies were exhumed and more graves were uncovered. The killing fields of Kashmir were revealed and 18 more fake victims identified. Graves were found in abandoned army camps and somewhere in Kashmir, 30 people lie nameless in a graveyard. The opposition claimed that 6 more encounters were fake and the police discovered another scam within its rank. The families demanded death to the killers; the government suspended four cops, arrested two senior officials and ordered an investigation. An investigation in which the Indian government run BSNL is not cooperating. The army and the CRPF have started separate investigations. Investigations in Kashmir mean cover up and a continued license to the forces to kill.

It’s tough to put into words the feelings of living in a piece of land occupied by foreigners. It is tough to see our brethren getting killed for the crime of being a Kashmiri. It is tough to see people getting murdered in the most terrible manner for a few hundred thousand rupees and a few promotions.

In a post Kill a Kashmiri Win 100,000 Rupees, many Indians claimed that the person killed was indeed a terrorist. They needed proof that it was otherwise. We have answers and the proofs and what we see now is just the tip of iceberg but this will not change the reality of living in Kashmir. These revelations will in no way change the thinking of the Indian people who are busy worrying about the burnt black bear. These revelations will not change the government policy of repression and occupation as the revelations were accidental very much like the sex scam in Kashmir. The investigations in the sex scandal led to nothing as will be the case with these investigations.

Chief Minister agrees that innocents are killed for rewards

The Chief Minister of Kashmir has accepted the fact that killings do indeed happen for promotions and rewards. The Chief Minister, perhaps unknowingly, has accepted that the government rewards murders. Indeed the murders are shrouded in the cover of terrorism.

If any security person found guilty of killing any innocent for personal reasons like promotion, rewards, or appeasement of bosses, he won’t be spared in any case, as no body is above the law

courtesy of greater kashmir

Update

DNA test confirm charge, Army not cooperating

With a DNA report confirming that the man killed by troops as Lashkar militant Abu Zahid was in fact Abdul Rahman Padroo, a carpenter, the focus of investigations into the killing of six villagers in fake encounters on Thursday shifted to the Army.

J-K Police officers say the Army is not co-operating in the investigations into the fake encounter.

The J-K Police have already arrested 13 of their own men, including the then Senior Superintendent of Police, Ganderbal, Hansraj Parihar, and his deputy DSP Badur Ram.

courtesy of indian express

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  1. […] opposing perspectives on Kashmir, K writes on India’s claim as the largest democracy in the world. Indian Army, the people of India would want you to believe, […]

  2. Its so sad to see venom being spat out here…Nobody wants to look at the human tragedy thats happening in Kashmir. Blame on the opposite chap and be smug about it. Say that the other bastard is wrong…and your job is done.

    No single Kashmiri has the moral authority to tell the world that violence is bad. Kashmiri vagabonds practised it on others, Pandits first, then poor hapless foreign tourists and then next obviously the dirty dogs i.e. the troops. When the response is similar and war like, they start crying wolf.

    Men don’t fight like this. If you go out to war, then don’t accept human rights to be the war rule. The response too will be war like. Accept it and fight.

  3. Sanjiv Khushu:

    Indeed its the God-Damned Kashmiris who are responsible for all evil and it is not surprising that you do not see the sufferings of Kashmiris courtesy of the state as human tragedy. It’s always the Pandits – the Hindus of Kashmir for whom the sympathy is.

    As far as fighting as man is considered. Maybe the suggestion should go to India. For a start, let India stop calling Kashmir an integral part and declare it a disputed territory then we wouldn’t have any reason to bring forth India’s hypocrisy. However, as long as it calls Kashmir an integral part and keeps claiming that the fight in Kashmir is cross-border terrorism, it is our duty to shed light on India’s hypocrisy viz-a-viz Kashmir and Kashmiris.

  4. Why is Kashmir not an integral part of India? Just because the valley is inhabited by Muslims? When you say Kashmir, do you mean the state of Jammu and Kashmir, or just the valley of Kashmir? How about Jammu, or Ladakh which are happily Indian – just because they are not Muslim.

    Unfortunately, no tears are shed for Pandits either – so don’t say the sympathy is for them. At least the Kashmiri Muslims are in their homes. The war has been created by your people, not by India. India is definitely the largest and the greatest democracy in the world (though not the strongest or the most powerful), but that does not mean bowing to a bunch of terrorists. Kashmiris were living peacefully till late eighties. I know that because I lived among them. So, put the blame where it belongs.

    As for your “jagmohan-dunnit” post, since when did Farooq Abdullahs word become sacred for Kashmiri Muslims? People say what is convenient for them.

  5. Fake encounters and misdeed by police forces are a part of India and all Indians know about the problems. The problem magnifies in a troubled state. However, the Hindu-Muslim angle is not acceptable here since the Policemen suspected of fake encounters also includes Kashmiri Muslims.

  6. To some extent, the Hindu exodus of 1990 was a human tragedy, too. But anybody who denies or justifies the violation of human rights in the valley at the hands of the India army is being, well, dumb. A state doesn not wage an organised war against its own citizens, which is what Kashmir Muslims are considered as by the Indian government. And if it is not a war, then what justifies the army and the HR abuses? And how can anybody keep shut about them?

  7. Diganta:

    However, the Hindu-Muslim angle is not acceptable here since the Policemen suspected of fake encounters also includes Kashmiri Muslims.

    Hindu-Muslim angle does not come into play for Kashmiris, but it does come into play for the Indian people. Instead of condeming the incident, we get to read comments such as these:

    Kashmiri vagabonds practised it on others, Pandits first, then poor hapless foreign tourists and then next obviously the dirty dogs i.e. the troops. When the response is similar and war like, they start crying wolf.

    Hizbul Mujahideen was not as successful in communalising the Kashmir conflict as is the Indian media and the people. Instead of being aghast at the innocent killings we are asked to fight like men! The hypocrisy is totally obvious and can not get worse than this, Kashmir is called an atoot ang and in the same breath we are asked to stop crying wolf.
    It is always the black bear which has more sympathy than the people.

  8. Raman:

    Unfortunately, no tears are shed for Pandits either – so don’t say the sympathy is for them.

    Is it the Indians you are talking about? If you are then you will see that tears are only shed for Kashmiri Pandits. Have a look at the comments in this blog, whenever the army was criticised we were asked about our behavior towards Kashmiri Pandits. If you say they are no tears then we just get another peep into the hypocrisy of Indians. Pandits were wronged, however that does not justify the deaths at the hands of one million troops.

    The war has been created by your people, not by India.

    It has been, but India should be bold enough to accept it as one. It says the war is imported from elsewhere. The war was a consequence of the failure of non-violent methods. 1987 elections just one of the factors.

    But that does not mean bowing to a bunch of terrorists.

    Does not bowing to terrorists mean killing innocents or does it mean spreading state terror.

    Kashmiris were living peacefully till late eighties. I know that because I lived among them. So, put the blame where it belongs.

    There is peace and there is semblance of peace.

    As for your “jagmohan-dunnit” post, since when did Farooq Abdullahs word become sacred for Kashmiri Muslims? People say what is convenient for them.

    Kashmiris have always claimed that Jagmohan had a part to play. No one believed us. However, even if Farooq Abdullah’s words who was the Chief Minister then are not believed then we can provide no further proof.

  9. So conveniently the human rights violations are covered up by the Pandit exodus tragedy. Thousands of innocents have died in Kashmir since then, but whenever those poor souls get a mention, the biased minds instead of doing something about it, atleast expressing sympathy jump to the earlier events, as if to say, since we died and we were forced to leave the valley, you deserve to die and be treated like animals by the hands of the Indian army. The irony being the army of the same country who call us their integral part.

    And even if we people do not want to pull in the religious factor here, the fact that such human rights violations are grossly neglected by the Indian public, shows how much a Kashmiri “Muslim” death effects them.

    “The war has been created by your people, not by India.” – According to some people India is not to be blamed for such innocent deaths, no doubt they range in thousands now! Even if we started the war, should we sit quietly and see how brutally the army treats our innocent civilians? The voice of the hapless Kashmiris doesn’t reach outside the valley, and whenever it manages to, it is brushed aside by ilogical and unrelated explanations like these.

  10. Kashmiris have always claimed that Jagmohan had a part to play. No one believed us. However, even if Farooq Abdullah’s words who was the Chief Minister then are not believed then we can provide no further proof.

    How about reading this post for a start?

  11. […] couple of weeks ago, when my last post was featured on Blogbharti, I followed links to this blog-post on Kashmir, and then I discovered a whole world of Kashmir blogs out there, that have all […]

  12. Hindu-Muslim angle does not come into play for Kashmiris – But the Kashmiri and non-Kashmiri angle does come in. The constables and the ASP arrested, were all Kashmiris, aren’t they?

  13. Hi Kashmiri

    As a fellow human being, I feel sorry for the sufferings of the Kashmiris and share their outrage at the continued presence of military. But, my feelings go much beyond. I am an Indian and I consider all Indians to be my brothers. I feel shame and guilt for the misery of my Kashmiri brothers.

    Whether Kashmiris want to be a part of the Indian Union or not is their problem. If a brother wants to split and start a new home, the family can do nothing about it right ? I feel really disturbed when I hear Kashmiris think of themselves as under Indian “occupation”. I hope there will be a plebiscite and the opinions of the Kashmiris are heard loud and clear.

    Having said that, I would like to ask every Kashmiri a few questions :

    1) What is the major difference between Kashmir and the rest of India ?

    (a) Is it language ? There are 20 major languages in India. My own language – Telugu, is more different from Hindi than Kashmiri ever is. Should I demand for a separate country too ?

    (b) Is it religion ? What about the 150 million Muslims who live in India ? Should they demand a separate country too ? And who told you that Hinduism is a single religion ? The people who are branded together as Hindus have more differences in their beliefs than any two faiths in the world – say Muslims and Jews.

    (c) Is it race ? Is this a joke ! Everyone in India is completely mixed up. The south has a Drawidian majority, the north east has a Mongoloid majority, the Andaman-islands have negroid people. Kashmiris have more in common with the Hindi-speaking people than any of these people.

    The truth is that India shouldn’t have been a single country. It is a historical accident. The Britishers were expecting the country to be split into pieces as they made to their exit. But except for the partition into Pakistan, the country managed to stay together !

    Imagine what would have happened if India became split into pieces. It would have looked no different from Africa, with everybody fighting everybody else and people dying of famine.

    It is only because we stayed together, that our economy is growing so fast. Looking at us, even Europe is planning to get closer these days.

    Nobody in the other parts of India hate Kashmiri people. In fact, they are the most-loved people in the country considering how beautiful it is where they live.

    Why is it that only Kashmiris feel alienated from the rest of India ? Why not Tamil people ? Why not Telugu people ?

  14. Raman Kaul:

    At least we accept that the Pandits were wronged, you just seem to say that we deserve the deaths and brought it onto ourselves. Maybe we should also claim that the Pandits brought the exodus onto themselves, how about that?

    Horizonspeaks:

    Kashmir is all about the state versus the people. You may want to read the post I Can Kill Everybody which sheds some light on the changing role of the Jammu and Kashmir police. Who were the sepoys in British India? Who opened fire on the people in Jallianwala Bagh massacre?

    Kiran:

    Thank you for understanding the suffering of Kashmiris, very few people are able to do that these days. Shall answer your questions very soon.

  15. … you just seem to say that we deserve the deaths and brought it onto ourselves.

    From which sentence of mine did you deduce that? Doesn’t surprise me though, going by the level of logic and drama used on your blog. I have repeatedly said, any human suffering is deplorable, including that of Kashmiris. However I maintain that ending the war, and ending the suffering for everybody is in hands of Kashmiris. An individual like you or me cannot do much alone. Best of luck.

  16. You did not deplore the killings of Kashmiris in your first comment though this post is about the epidemic of fake killings that are plaguing Kashmir. You liken the deaths in Kashmir to the deaths as a result of corruption in India as a whole!

    The war has been created by your people, not by India.
    It is an unfortunate byproduct of the separatist movement.

    Don’t these claims make us responsible for our deaths?

    What you are missing is that the deaths highlighted on this blog are of the innocents. The deaths as a consequence of the ‘trigger happy’ and ‘reward thirsty’ ‘disciplined’ army of India. Nowhere will you find a post on the deaths as a consequence of an encounter between militants and military because both of them know they have either to get killed or kill. However, the carpenter who begged for mercy did not choose to fight but still was murdered. The Pathribal killings, the Gaw Kadal and Sopore massacres are all incidents of innocents killed by the army. Killed for protesting or for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

    This is how TIME described the Sopore massacre and the protests that ensued:

    “Perhaps there is a special corner in hell reserved for troopers who fire their weapons indiscriminately into a crowd of unarmed civilians. That, at least, must have been the hope of every resident who defied an army-enforced curfew in the Kashmiri town of Sopur to protest a massacre that left 55 people dead and scores injured.”

  17. You replied – Kashmir is a case of state vs others. But why can’t then they choose better people to represent them at state? The British sepoys or Jaliwanwalabagh massacre bullets came from Indians who were *appointed by* the British. And they were responsible to the British again for their duty.

    The Police in Kashmir are appointed by Kashmiris (PDP and NC are built out of Kashmiri people). They are *choosen* to power by Kashmiris, aren’t they?

    Why can’t you float another party, who’d do justice for Kashmiris, and vote for them?

  18. Kiran:

    1) What is the major difference between Kashmir and the rest of India?
    (a) Is it language? There are 20 major languages in India. My own language – Telugu, is more different from Hindi than Kashmiri ever is. Should I demand for a separate country too?

    Kashmir is a multi-lingual state. It never has been about language even though Kashmiri has never been taught in Kashmiri schools till recently.

    (b) Is it religion? What about the 150 million Muslims who live in India? Should they demand a separate country too? And who told you that Hinduism is a single religion? The people who are branded together as Hindus have more differences in their beliefs than any two faiths in the world – say Muslims and Jews.

    No, it has never been about religion. The first organisation to start the armed fight was Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) – a secular nationalistic organisation. Thanks to India, Pakistan, the Indian media, and the right wing organisations, the Kashmir issue has been painted green. It suits everyone but Kashmiris. It suits India; Kashmir can easily be clubbed with the Axis of Evil and be destroyed. No one will ask questions, not even their own people. It suits the fanatics and politicians in Pakistan who can survive only as long as Kashmir bleeds. It suits the Indian media, helps them with their TRP. It suits the right wing – Islam always has been an enemy.

    (c) Is it race?

    No.
    The Kashmir issue is not about differences or similarities. It is about the injustices meted out to Kashmir since 1947. It occupied Kashmir in 1947 as did the Pakistani tribals. It took away our special status. It always saw us as ‘suspects.’ It appeased the minorities at the cost of development of Kashmiris in Kashmir. India had 50 years to win the hearts of Kashmiris but it chose to jail our leaders (Sheikh Abdullah was jailed for 22 years because he spoken for Kashmiris and finally he broke down), installed governments (Bakshi), keeping rigged elections (1987 rigging of elections produced today’s Sala u din, Syed Ali Shah Geelani, Abdul Gani Lone, Ansari et al) and did everything in its power to keep a people subjugated. It’s about suspecting a people forever and keeping them systematically under oppression. Since 1989, Kashmir has seen massacres, killings, disappearances and torture at the hands of the security forces. They might be securing India’s borders but they are surely, without doubt, making life hell for a Kashmiri in his paradise.

    Why is it that only Kashmiris feel alienated from the rest of India? Why not Tamil people? Why not Telugu people?

    This blog answers this question of yours. This post especially should give you a peek into the working of the Indian government in Kashmir

  19. Horizonspeaks:

    The Police in Kashmir are appointed by Kashmiris (PDP and NC are built out of Kashmiri people). They are *choosen* to power by Kashmiris, aren’t they?

    They are appointed by India and are responsible to India. The people who run the police are from Indian Police Service. The top administration of Kashmir is almost totally on Kashmiri. About choosing representatives in Kashmir, if elections were ever fair in Kashmir, probably Kashmir wouldn’t have been the problem it is today. Nehru jailed his friend and the Kashmiri leader Sheikh Abdullah for 22 years, because he spoke for Kashmir. Indira Gandhi played the same game with Farooq Abdullah. When Indira’s cousin, who was the governor of Kashmir then, refused to dismiss Farooq Abdullah’s government, she dismissed him. Indira Gandhi’s Kitchen Cabinet not only played havoc with Kashmir but with India as well. The police have just recently started to take part in counter insurgency in Kashmir. The army has been doing it since 1989 and so far not even a single person has been publicly sentenced. The records of the Army are far worse than that of the police but that does not absolve anyone of the crime. It is the state versus the people and it is the state that is winning. When the black bear was burnt in Kashmir, a concerned Indian sent an email to the Chief justice asking for the culprits to be booked. It was considered as a PIL by the Justice. How many times have Indians raised the slightest voice when an innocent Kashmiri is killed? This blog has a lot of details on the innocents killed and the role of the army and the usual response I get from Indians can not be published and those that can say that we brought this misery onto ourselves and then we are asked about Kashmiri Pandits and their exodus. As if that justifies our killings. I wonder why no one questions or at least says that what is happening is wrong!

    Why can’t you float another party, who’d do justice for Kashmiris, and vote for them?

    Kashmiris tried to get justice through peace. We failed. 1987 saw absolute failure of Indian democracy in Kashmir. Justice has been eluding Kashmir for long and will for long. Politicians in Kashmir have to do what their masters in Delhi ask them to because history is witness to the fact that whenever a politician said no to Delhi, he was thrown out.

  20. “Whenever a politician said no to Delhi, he was thrown out.” – ‘thrown out’ means? If a politician wants development in Kashmir, why should he get a ‘No’ from Delhi?

    Still I am not convinced why Kashmiri people [don’t] vote and elect a ‘new party’, then the party takes care of development of Kashmir.

  21. No, it has never been about religion. The first organisation to start the armed fight was Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) – a secular nationalistic organisation.

    It is and has always been about religion. Calling JKLF secular is like calling Bush a communist. Tell me which member of JKLF was ever a non-Muslim. When did Jammuites, Ladakhis or Kashmiri Hindus ever rise against India? Nobody except Kashmiri Muslims has ever wanted to separate from India. Please don’t mislead people. It is militant Islam that has created all the troubles, although militant Islam didn’t belong to Kashmir. For obvious reasons, you will not say anything against them, and write only against the Indians. I know, you will say that all the hijackings, murders, bombings, the militants that become heroes in Pakistan, the terror camps in that country are all a figment of Indian people’s and the world’s imagination. Keep your misleading propaganda machine running.

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  23. Hi K

    I didn’t check out your reply to my comment till now. Thanks for clearing some of the mist. As you can expect, most people in India are kept in the dark about what’s going on in Kashmir. For example, many don’t know that important leaders are kept jailed for 20 years. This is a serious abuse of power.

    I believe that the salvation of Kashmir is in economic development. The National Institute of Technology (Srinagar) is one of the least ranked in all the NITs. Also, there are no great medical or scientific schools in Kashmir yet. For the sake of comparison, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka have hundred times more the number of these institutions. One can see the effects of this in the cities of Hyderabad (my own city) and Bangalore.

    I currently live in Grenoble (France) which is the mountain capital of Alpes. It is also an extremely industrial center with a very high concentration of software and engineering companies. People love to work here because of the fantastic life opportunities that this city offers. The people of Kashmir should envisage a similar future for Srinagar.

    I am very worried that the current separatist movement will lead the valley in the opposite direction and turn it into another mountain republic with a fate similar to Turkmenistan. Kashmiri people deserve more than that.

  24. It’s so sad to see venom being spewed in this blog site. You guys just don’t understand the value of a human life. For you life has a value and a meaning only if it is a Kashmiri Muslim’s. If it is any other bastard’s life then …phew…you know the answer.

    I dont know if you read my first comment carefully..let me reproduce it here verbatim..”Nobody wants to look at the human tragedy that’s happening in Kashmir. Blame on the opposite chap and be smug about it. Say that the other bastard is wrong…and your job is done. ”

    Unfortunately this site repeats and repeats this endlessly…I feel so sad for all of us.

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  27. I hope this does not come too late for other people’s notice, especially as folks in India may not even read my comment. Thanks to government ban on wordpress.com and many other internet portals.

    My comment is directly addressed to many non Kashmiri Indian people who are singling out Kashmiris as some kind of cry babies who don’t want to remain in their great democratic country. Now, I am not blaming anyone for personal reasons but arn’t there hundreds more separatist movements in India, in every nook and corner?

    If my memory serves me well I can remember these: Khalistan or the persecuted Sikhs in Punjab region, Many Tamils who think Hindi speaking Indians dominate everything, Millions of persecuted and starving dalits and tribal people who have never even made a phone call (to borrow Noam Chomsky’s phrase) let alone read this blog, other low caste folks and starving farmers, laborers and unemployed people who have taken to violent Marxist revolutionary means in many parts of central, Southern and Eastern India, then there are all the states in the North Eastern India… list goes on and on.

  28. India has problems but there is some sort of democracy as apposed to china.Kashmir is definitely a killing (literally) issue. People’s lives are more important than land. I hope someday India realizes that. But the history of wars with Pakistan and China makes this very difficult to fathom.

    Hate is a baggage and when we carry it around it only manages to come back to haunt us again.

    Though I am only educated by the blind media of India as you call it, the same media has done a good job of educating me on quite some other good things. However I look at your posts with a open mind and though you made some good points initially, in my humble opinion you might have driven away some open minded by overshooting on some rhetoric.

    Lots of my brothers have lost their lives in Kashmir, and I don’t care a damn either. Just like you moan for your cause (I feel for them too), I cant understand why my brothers fight for people who do not even consider themselves Indians. Its the same story of what American soldiers are doing in Iraq. Army have committed numerous atrocities you say, so they should be punished and they already are, losing their lives for a cause which only gives political mileage for the government.

    Between Kashmir and lives of our army men, I would choose our army men, hands down. Hopefully the government gives you people what you want, your land and your freedom.

    And yes, there are lots of other separatists movements in India, the only difference is Pakistan is not involved.

    The point I am trying to make is from the perspective of a educated, forward looking Indian and I totally agree that this problem cannot be let to pass and solve itself over time. If your freedom, saves lives of people, be it Kashmiris or Indian army men (Note, I mention them distinctly), then I preach for your freedom as well.

    You can side with Pakistan (I do not know if thats the case) or have your own autonomy, but please do look at this point with an open mind.

    “Hate will always come with baggage …. ”

    People do wrong, but lets not mix that with Cause and freedom.

    I have a question though for Kashmiri people:

    “Would you accept Indian rule if the army is completely removed from Kashmir ?” I mean is the complaint against Army or is that you do not want to be administered by India?

    Just want to understand you point of view, I am not questioning sarcastically.

    — An Educated Indian.

  29. I am pleasantly surprised at your views. As for the Kashmiris opting to remain with India, no chance of that after what has happened in Kasmir over the last 2o years or so.

  30. I found all this wailing about the “suffering” of kashmiri Muslims very amusing…so why did the Kashimir Pandits leave? Why were they murdered and raped by their neighbours? What about their freedom? Is this the kind of Kashmir that the majority wants? Where is this condemnation of those Jihadis by the Muslim majority? Why is it that radical Islam causes misery everywhere around the world? Are fundamentalist Muslims the only oppressed people in this world? Why don’t we see oppressed BBuddhist monks in Burma killing innocent people? Radical Islam has no place in the civilized world. Fundamentalists can not be treated on par with civilized humans…they are subhuman and need to be crushed…in Chechnya, in Kashmir, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan…the list is endless!

  31. India is truly the greatest democracy in the world. A Sikh PM, a Muslim President and the nation is proud of them…does anyone think this would ever be possible in a Muslim majority country? Kashmiri Muslims did not even let Hindus live in peace, let alone accept them as leaders! The fundamentalists amongst the Kashmiri Muslims have been like a cancer to the Indian nation, they are lazy, have milked it to their use, drained it’s resources, yet remained disloyal to it…they clearly do not deserve to be a part of this great nation and should be allow to leave for Pakistan (or wherever else they want to go). India and Pakistan got their independence at the same time…and 60 years later the differences are stark… India (though not perfect as it’s critics would say) is a secular bustling economy…and Pakistan…well…

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  33. I was coincidently going through the article and some of the posts but was literally disappointed by seeing a couple of them completely biased… without naming them I would request all those honourable citizens being filled to the brim with love and bias towards the country to kindly go through the history once before commenting.. Just know the real facts behind the movement, behind the migration of Pandit brothers (especially the role played by Mr. Jagmohan, the then governor) and the proofs and facts about the fake encounters and custodial killings, (don’t accept something written by neutral freelances if they don’t want to and go through the stories by some of the Indian Soldiers published in all leading dailies in late 2007 and some of the blogs by them).

    It is really sad to see people being so much biased in a so called democracy… Do we actually live in a democracy?? Do people deserve to be asked for their passports in their own country?? Getting an apartment in one own country is a tough nut to crack when it comes to a Kashmiri living outside the valley… Just experience it once and taste the sweet experience yourself in your own country…

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